Quantified Community: Hudson Yards – Feng

In Kontokosta’s passage, the author mentioned the “slice of the city”. It could be considered a kind of model of city, or similar to the “one to one map” in the previous readings. They are both the model of a city, but in the readings, one is important and profitable to smart city, another one is not. The difference between them is the scale of data which was collected. So, What scale of data is a good volume for developing of smart city? How to determine the scale or the volume?

W4. Quantified Community: Hudson Yards – Pinelopi

– On Kontokosta K., “The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs: A framework for computational Urban Planning and Civic Technology Innovation”

The key feature of the Quantified Community (QC) seems to be that of scale. Kontokosta is repeatedly emphasizing on its importance to demonstrate that, as opposed to previous urban scale smart projects, time and resources are not squandered, social and political aspects are considered and citizens are an integral part of decision-making. Notably, the QC is understood as a hybrid of urban-scale Smart City initiatives and the “Quantified Self” movement (pp2) to overcome the problem of ‘low-resolution’ evaluation criteria of urban policies and design (pp4). In the words of Kontokosta, data acquired “voluntary (…) could also be used to understand links between the neighborhood/community conditions and personal health outcomes of residents” (pp7, my emphasis). Aren’t there ways to gain insight on behavior patterns other than directly monitoring bodies themselves?

– on Mattern S., “Instrumental City: The View from Hudson Yards circa 2019”

Mattern touches extensively on the material expression of ‘smartness’, identifying three key issues. On the one hand, fundamental urban processes are being dematerialized, hidden away and thus, ‘forgotten’ by citizens (pp5). The physical infrastructure that profoundly sustains the instrumental city is to be observed through “a deceptively clean, shallow interface” (pp13) – not unlike the screen-filled control rooms in Songdo. On the other hand, the build environment becomes an architectural product that appears to perform according to the branded identity of the district (pp5) in a ‘form follows data’ manner (pp6).

Considering the above, it seems that the instrumental city embodies the opposition of depth vs. surface: while its digital infrastructure mediates multiple levels of urban processes, it remains out of sight for the citizens and it is merely represented as an interface – a surface of control. The build environment is also developed along these lines, offering little or no insight on the parameters that constitute it. Shouldn’t the smart city be primarily about transparency and accessibility? Could contrasts like this be resolved in the future, or are they part of the smart problematique by default?

Quantified Community: Hudson Yards – Sandra

The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs – Kontokosta

– The QC approach seems to be an initiative that starts from the ground up, with input from citizens (both actively and passively), as opposed to a planner’s creation of a Smart City.  How likely is it that residents will be willing to share and divulge details of their lives enough for fruitful data collection on a community scale?  While “signals emanating from mobile communication devices and other personal electronics” (p. 6) seem to be the most effective means of collecting passive data, an “opt-in approach” is certainly needed if the motivations behind QC’s are truly for the community.

– Is there already an example of a QC that has successfully evolved and contributed to a greater urban space? It seems as though collection of data over a long period of time, evaluation of data, comparisons with nearby QC’s and finally interconnectivity on a large scale would require a huge amount of sustained interest and long term vision.

 

Instrumental City: The View from Hudson Yards – Mattern

– “This is Hudson Yards, the largest private real-estate development in United States history and the test ground for the world’s most ambitious experiment in “smart city” urbanism.” (p. 1) It is interesting that after every proposal for this site that fell through, the Hudson Yards project is what succeeded and is moving forward. In New York City, nothing in real estate is done without considerable planning and study. Is this, then, an indicator of what the biggest of cities values?

– Is an “out-of-sight, out-of-mind” (p. 5) approach really the best idea when it comes to environmental/ecological concerns in a “smart” setting? I like the author’s idea of something like a chute for a peek into trash collection systems, because I feel that without it, the idea that the built environment does everything for you is harmful for a sense of responsibility in regards to the natural environment.

Quantified Community: Hudson Yards – Jiaqi

The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs

“As QC sensor and computing infrastructure are integrated into more neighborhoods,…” (p11-p12)

The QC is more like a test bed to gather data and also manage data for the residents or permanent neighbors, but how to apply to visitors or temporary individuals who integrate into this”city”? If there are a quantity of temporary individual, will they interfere the system or not?

  • What is “ Isolated building or system mean(p4)”? Does QC have a scale of zone/ space? Does QC is also an isolated system?

Instrumental City

“… and now intend to use their new weapon — data — to revolutionize the old urban regime.” (p17-p18)

  • To say, data would be a new weapon in the revolution of an urban regime. But when data become to a new weapon.Could we just use these data from QC to apply to the rest of this city and others?

Quantified Community: Hudson Yards

Instrumental City: The View from Hudson Yards – Shannon Mattern

 

  • Unlike Songdo, Hudson Yards is placed in the middle of an existing built environment. Would the data collected within the Hudson Yards be able to differentiate user activity between people who live or work there, and people who are just passing through? Can the data collected coincide with data collected in the city as a whole? Does this intermingling of “residents” and “outsiders” limit it’s capabilities or the information it obtains?

 

The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs: A Framework for Computational Urban Planning and Civic Technology Innovation – Constantine Kontokosta

 

  • Quantified communities seem to be more of a bottom-up process compared to the Smart City, and seems to play a stronger role on the wants of each individual in the community. Would erecting a bunch of different quantified communities that can share data with one another, instead of a smart city, pave a more specific direction into a connected city being that our cities are already broken up into neighborhoods and districts?

 

QC — zhicheng zhang

1. Kontokosta introduced us a model of the quantified community which is a testbed and small version of “smart city”, however, even though it is building a small version of “smart city” there will be problems. because the community is still a complex space where the real estate, property management company, third party platform are the big role in building such community. Who will be the leader to organize all the components of the community?

2. Kontokosta mentions about the information that provides on social networks website, those information seems not to be a private information, however, when it became a part of big data, it may release more information than the uploader think, will QC redefines the privacy?

3. unlike Songdo, Hudson Yards is based on a developed site which means lots of the work are renewing or updating. Also, it means it has the area that connects to the “non-smart city” how to deal with the transition from smart to non-smart?

Quantified Community: Hudson Yards –Yumeng Chen

Instrumental City: The View from Hudson Yards, circa 2019

– Since read so many cases about intelligent cities, is there any standard about what is intelligent cities ? can we regard the energy conservation as part of the intelligent city ?

– In the case of bloombergianism, the intelligence mainly reflects in solving problems. So in this situation, can we consider that the engineers play more important role than architects?

 

The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs: A Framework for Computational Urban Planning and Civic Technology Innovation

 

– If our city can collect all the data for this city, does every citizen have the authority to see these data?

Quantified Community: Hudson Yards —-Shen

1 Instrument city 

New York’s gradual, lot-by-lot evolution; the danger is that it can produce a jumble, that kind of jumble is cause of the previous New York infrastructure or the testing bed system self-chaos?

Could this jumble also happens in other project or even take places at any other new city?

Hudson yard is an example of the data science interdisciplinary practice this practice requires collaboration among every smart citizens participate. Do we have the right to revoke our participate?

 

2 The Quantified Community and Neighborhood Labs: A Framework for Computational Urban Science and Civic Technology Innovation

The data is the catalyze of urban development, the data analytics, and feedback on urban life will guide the city developer to district adjustment, base on the data could this lead to district polarization and finalization?

 

Quantified Community

  • Instrumental City – Shannon Mattern

Although it is clear in Doctoroff’s persistence and background that the development is another mean of profit and expansion. Regardless of his intentions, the implementation of such infrastructure will allow us to connect, interact and communicate in unprecedented ways. E.g as computers became more powerful as a result of competition in the tech market, the existence of recent “powerhouse” platforms allowed startups like Oculus (an entertainment tech company) to pioneer Virtual Reality experiences unprecedented in their realism and detail. It seems unrealistic and naïve to expect corporations to invest such time, effort and resources for some sort of noble non monetary gain with no intentions of capitalizing on their efforts.

“In this universe, citizens relate to their city by consuming and administering its systems, and by serving as sources of measurable behavioral data.” How does this change our perception of the city as it’s people? Does it? Does it not in fact reinforce it? Ultimately, CUSP claims their endeavors to be noble and in the genuine pursuit of boosting the general public’s quality of life – But can they be trusted?

How is the smart city rendered from the perspective of someone (as unlikely as it may be) that is not smart device-connected? How does that effect (if at all) their sense of the immediate, physical context? Do you gather they will be more connected to their environment as a result of continuously processing a “high resolution, low pace information” i.e, as McCullough puts it, being exposed strictly to a “restorative environment” or do you gather smart technology will become imbedded to such extents that to be smart-disconnected is to be isolated from your city?

Built environments and technical systems are presumed to inform human behavior, and data about that behavior is fed back into the environment to alter future human behavior. If general information is fed back to us effectively augmenting our decision making and soon shaping our habits does a smart city effectively threaten to give rise to an engineered society? “The data we generate, based on determinist assumptions and imperfect methodologies, could end up shaping populations and building worlds in their own image” Has this risk been recognized &/or being addressed?

Could the form of citizen participation simply change and not quite as dramatically cease to exist? Although the underlying infrastructure is hidden and thus not perceived or processed by the population isn’t the overlaid cyber space theoretically infinitely traversable? Could our infatuation with the hidden infrastructure be due to our human predisposition to attempt to deal or perceive new technologies in old (comfortable) ways (Mcluhan)?

If you were to create a smart city, how would you do it differently? Expose the underlying infrastructure and designate countless above ground square footage to it’s accommodation so that citizens can feel comfortable and “accustomed” to the interworks of the city? Expend billions of dollars of your and your investors’ capital in development of such infrastructure with no intention of making a monetary return on your effort(s) (perhaps more importantly, your eager investors)? Every extension is preceded by an amputation, and we’ve been through the mill a few times – with the extension of our objectivity, sensory and aggregation through the smart city could it simply be that the amputation is knowing “less” about the infrastructure that makes it work? and could we not educate ourselves? Become smarter citizens to keep up with our smart city? Would you rather wait for smart citizens to save the environment & boost the efficiency of our built context? Think they could do it without harvesting big data or even on a scale of an entire city? If they could, why haven’t they yet?

  • A Framework for Computational Urban Planning – Kontokosta

If collected data isn’t accurate due to the imposition of the pre-existing infrastructure on our habits and decisions, could data collected and reinforced in that context not technically make things worse without us even noticing? That we may risk becoming less critical of our environment and more passive, accepting or even powerless?

If the systemic division of the nation and the introduction of the interstate highway systems were defensive strategies, isn’t the complete centralization of everything that will come to constitute our mean of intelligent living counterintuitive/ risky?

W02 – Smart Cities vs Smart Citizens,

 

Test Bed as Urban Epistemology –

Songdo city and 50000 more smart cities going to be planned as smart cities, What are the planning ethics for these cities?

How smart cities will be different than existing planned cities? (except smart network)

All these are going to be built from scratch, what about transforming current mega cities into smart cities. What ideology can be use for development of existing cities?